Comments on: Painting China Now (2007) http://brodypaetau.com Ondrej Brody & Kristofer Paetau Thu, 17 May 2012 19:44:14 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: Anonymous http://brodypaetau.com/recent-works/painting-china-now#comment-17976 Anonymous Fri, 26 Mar 2010 16:57:10 +0000 http://brodypaetau.com/?page_id=79#comment-17976 Pierre GILOU. Ceci est la traduction Google du texte précédent. piergilou@ol.com I followed the work of many Chinese, I even set out with some who excel in our profession, that is why I take the trouble to file this message. Do not think your images m'aient shocked. Not because it does not shock anymore. What caught my eye, is the quality (however unequal) of certain paintings exhibited here. You demonstrate some technical talent and I'm sensitive, but I will give you some advice, as a teacher, to use your technique in everyone's interest, starting with yourself. Here is what inspires your work: An error commonly widespread, confusing art and commerce, claimed in recent decades the art to be of high quality new, never seen, etc.. Starting from this axiom, everything is possible and leads inexorably to the worst achievements, which we now live. I can see in these paintings that the search ever seen. Chimera that exists only in small heads, for what we believe was invented already been exploited by others before. This new cult, which has raged for half century has reduced art to the point of his own demise. The so-called "art" today is emptied of its original meaning as understood since centuries, and merges with fashion. This helps the word art today serves only practice of atoning for those who consider themselves artists and express that in their claim social status. These are not the subjects represented by these Chinese painters that I criticize here, but their interpretation essentially "photographic" entirely devoid of human sensibility. This that generally expected of a work of art, it transpires that humans. I am among those who acknowledge and affirm that a pictorial representation must be painted performed in "direct optical contact" with the subject and not through what the filter the camera lens. To be vulgar, I would say that is to make love with condom. This means that we must himself from the photographic medium and its place bridge to the real model in three dimensions. What these pictures reveal, these are just bad pictures devoid of emotion. My advice to these artists, which I deny here the artist's name, using their technical knowledge to focus on the transcendent issues affecting deep art lovers or who dream to do. This type of aggression that falsely realistic they are engaged now nothing can bring back, if not the admiration of the brain empty sensationalism. Proposer une meilleure traduction ©2010 Google - Pierre GILOU. Ceci est la traduction Google du texte précédent. piergilou@ol.com

I followed the work of many Chinese, I even set out with some who excel in
our profession, that is why I take the trouble to file this message.
Do not think your images m’aient shocked. Not because it does not shock anymore. What
caught my eye, is the quality (however unequal) of certain paintings exhibited here.
You demonstrate some technical talent and I’m sensitive, but I will
give you some advice, as a teacher, to use your technique in
everyone’s interest, starting with yourself.
Here is what inspires your work:
An error commonly widespread, confusing art and commerce, claimed in recent decades
the art to be of high quality new, never seen, etc.. Starting from this axiom, everything is
possible and leads inexorably to the worst achievements, which we now live.
I can see in these paintings that the search ever seen. Chimera that exists only in
small heads, for what we believe was invented already been exploited by others before.
This new cult, which has raged for half century has reduced art to the point of his own demise.
The so-called “art” today is emptied of its original meaning as understood since
centuries, and merges with fashion. This helps the word art today serves only
practice of atoning for those who consider themselves artists and express that in their claim
social status.
These are not the subjects represented by these Chinese painters that I criticize here, but their
interpretation essentially “photographic” entirely devoid of human sensibility. This
that generally expected of a work of art, it transpires that humans.
I am among those who acknowledge and affirm that a pictorial representation must be painted
performed in “direct optical contact” with the subject and not through what the filter
the camera lens. To be vulgar, I would say that is to make love with
condom. This means that we must himself from the photographic medium and its place
bridge to the real model in three dimensions.
What these pictures reveal, these are just bad pictures devoid of emotion.
My advice to these artists, which I deny here the artist’s name, using their
technical knowledge to focus on the transcendent issues affecting deep
art lovers or who dream to do. This type of aggression that falsely realistic
they are engaged now nothing can bring back, if not the admiration of the brain empty
sensationalism.
Proposer une meilleure traduction
©2010 Google -

]]> By: Anonymous http://brodypaetau.com/recent-works/painting-china-now#comment-17975 Anonymous Fri, 26 Mar 2010 16:48:23 +0000 http://brodypaetau.com/?page_id=79#comment-17975 J’ai suivi le travail de beaucoup de chinois, j’ai même exposé avec certains qui excellent dans notre métier, voila pourquoi je prends la peine de déposer ce message. Ne croyez pas que vos images m’aient choqué. Non, car on ne choque plus aujourd’hui. Ce qui a retenu mon regard, c’est la qualité (inégale cependant) de certaines peintures ici exposées. Vous faites preuve d’un certain talent technique et j’y suis sensible, cependant je me permettrai de vous donner quelques conseils, en tant que professeur, afin d’utiliser votre technique dans l’intérêt de tous, à commencer par vous-mêmes. Voici ce que m’inspire votre travail : Une erreur communément répandu, confondant art et commerce, prétend depuis quelques décennies que l’art à pour première qualité d’être nouveau, jamais vu, etc. partant de cet axiome, tout est possible et conduit inexorablement aux pires réalisations, ce que nous vivons actuellement. Je ne distingue dans ces peintures que la recherche du jamais vu. Chimère qui n’existe que dans les petites têtes, car ce que l’on croit inventer a déjà été exploité par d’autres auparavant. Ce culte du nouveau, qui sévit depuis ½ siècle a réduit l’art au point de sa propre disparition. Ce que l’on appelle « art » aujourd’hui est vidé de son sens initial tel qu’on l’entend depuis des siècles, et se confond avec la mode. Ce phénomène aidant, le mot art aujourd’hui ne sert que de pratique expiatoire à ceux qui se croient artistes et n’expriment en fait que leur prétention à un statut social. Ce ne sont pas les sujets représentés par ces peintres chinois que je critiquerai ici, mais leur interprétation essentiellement « photographique », entièrement dénuée de sensibilité humaine. Ce qu’en général on attend d’une œuvre d’art, c’est que transparaisse l’humain. Je suis de ceux qui reconnaissent et affirment qu’une représentation picturale peinte doit être réalisée en « contact optique direct » avec le sujet et non par l’intermédiaire qu’est le filtre de l’objectif photographique. Pour être vulgaire, je dirai que c’est faire l’amour avec un préservatif. Cela signifie que l’on doit s’abstraire du médium photographique et placer son chevalet devant le modèle réel, en trois dimensions. Ce que dévoilent ces peintures, ce ne sont que de mauvaises photos dépourvues d’émotion. Je conseillerais à ces peintres, auxquels je dénie ici le nom d’artiste, d’utiliser leurs connaissances techniques pour s’attacher à des sujets transcendants qui touchent en profondeur les amateurs d’art ou qui les fassent rêver. Ce type d’agression faussement réaliste à laquelle ils se livrent actuellement ne peut rien leur apporter, sinon l’admiration de cerveaux vides à la recherche du sensationnel. J’ai suivi le travail de beaucoup de chinois, j’ai même exposé avec certains qui excellent dans notre métier, voila pourquoi je prends la peine de déposer ce message.
Ne croyez pas que vos images m’aient choqué. Non, car on ne choque plus aujourd’hui. Ce qui a retenu mon regard, c’est la qualité (inégale cependant) de certaines peintures ici exposées.
Vous faites preuve d’un certain talent technique et j’y suis sensible, cependant je me permettrai de vous donner quelques conseils, en tant que professeur, afin d’utiliser votre technique dans l’intérêt de tous, à commencer par vous-mêmes.
Voici ce que m’inspire votre travail :
Une erreur communément répandu, confondant art et commerce, prétend depuis quelques décennies que l’art à pour première qualité d’être nouveau, jamais vu, etc. partant de cet axiome, tout est possible et conduit inexorablement aux pires réalisations, ce que nous vivons actuellement.
Je ne distingue dans ces peintures que la recherche du jamais vu. Chimère qui n’existe que dans les petites têtes, car ce que l’on croit inventer a déjà été exploité par d’autres auparavant.
Ce culte du nouveau, qui sévit depuis ½ siècle a réduit l’art au point de sa propre disparition. Ce que l’on appelle « art » aujourd’hui est vidé de son sens initial tel qu’on l’entend depuis des siècles, et se confond avec la mode. Ce phénomène aidant, le mot art aujourd’hui ne sert que de pratique expiatoire à ceux qui se croient artistes et n’expriment en fait que leur prétention à un statut social.
Ce ne sont pas les sujets représentés par ces peintres chinois que je critiquerai ici, mais leur interprétation essentiellement « photographique », entièrement dénuée de sensibilité humaine. Ce qu’en général on attend d’une œuvre d’art, c’est que transparaisse l’humain.
Je suis de ceux qui reconnaissent et affirment qu’une représentation picturale peinte doit être réalisée en « contact optique direct » avec le sujet et non par l’intermédiaire qu’est le filtre de l’objectif photographique. Pour être vulgaire, je dirai que c’est faire l’amour avec un préservatif. Cela signifie que l’on doit s’abstraire du médium photographique et placer son chevalet devant le modèle réel, en trois dimensions.
Ce que dévoilent ces peintures, ce ne sont que de mauvaises photos dépourvues d’émotion.
Je conseillerais à ces peintres, auxquels je dénie ici le nom d’artiste, d’utiliser leurs connaissances techniques pour s’attacher à des sujets transcendants qui touchent en profondeur les amateurs d’art ou qui les fassent rêver. Ce type d’agression faussement réaliste à laquelle ils se livrent actuellement ne peut rien leur apporter, sinon l’admiration de cerveaux vides à la recherche du sensationnel.

]]> By: Anonymous http://brodypaetau.com/recent-works/painting-china-now#comment-58 Anonymous Thu, 27 Mar 2008 09:21:31 +0000 http://brodypaetau.com/?page_id=79#comment-58 Maybe you should incorporate the comments above into the exhibition?! ;-) Anyway… brilliant idea, striking work. Hats off to you, guys. - Sascha Brossmann Maybe you should incorporate the comments above into the exhibition?! ;-)
Anyway… brilliant idea, striking work. Hats off to you, guys.

- Sascha Brossmann

]]> By: Anonymous http://brodypaetau.com/recent-works/painting-china-now#comment-52 Anonymous Sun, 16 Mar 2008 20:43:49 +0000 http://brodypaetau.com/?page_id=79#comment-52 lots of comments, lots of misunderstandings... this work is definitely working! lots of comments, lots of misunderstandings… this work is definitely working!

]]> By: Anonymous http://brodypaetau.com/recent-works/painting-china-now#comment-51 Anonymous Sun, 09 Mar 2008 01:32:09 +0000 http://brodypaetau.com/?page_id=79#comment-51 Everything has been done before. That's not what matters! The installation not only critiques politics, but society, culture, the museum, and western vs. eastern culture. I am living in America and for me to see this work is thought-provoking. Most of the critiques on this wall so far suck ass. Some concerns: 1) You two are from a western culture. Why paint on white paper, white canvas, and in a rectangular format? Those are iconography of Fine Art, which was made to separate cultures and to create racism. Are you thinking about that in this art making process and how does it all fit? 2) Why couldn't this have been on a tinted paper, from floor to ceiling, but with the light shining on it. Why not have the paper continuously wraping around as in a cycle only to broken up with the entrance to suggest human intervention? 3) Are you planning on continuing this series of work to other cultures? I know that those pictures were your main inspiration, but you are responsible for the tools you are using. Let's be real, other cultures are doing some nasty things before and after China. Since the Chinese torture is in your inventory, I think it is only proper to investigate the invention of this type of torture in other types of cultures. 4) I think it's only proper to disregard the comments of people on here who state in their anonymity that you two don't care. It takes time to paint, it takes time to install work, and it takes time to make a difference. I think you two are trying to make a difference. - Jonathan Cobbs nate blake jcobbs.blaqkthought@gmail.com Everything has been done before. That’s not what matters! The installation not only critiques politics, but society, culture, the museum, and western vs. eastern culture. I am living in America and for me to see this work is thought-provoking. Most of the critiques on this wall so far suck ass.

Some concerns:

1) You two are from a western culture. Why paint on white paper, white canvas, and in a rectangular format? Those are iconography of Fine Art, which was made to separate cultures and to create racism. Are you thinking about that in this art making process and how does it all fit?

2) Why couldn’t this have been on a tinted paper, from floor to ceiling, but with the light shining on it. Why not have the paper continuously wraping around as in a cycle only to broken up with the entrance to suggest human intervention?

3) Are you planning on continuing this series of work to other cultures? I know that those pictures were your main inspiration, but you are responsible for the tools you are using. Let’s be real, other cultures are doing some nasty things before and after China. Since the Chinese torture is in your inventory, I think it is only proper to investigate the invention of this type of torture in other types of cultures.

4) I think it’s only proper to disregard the comments of people on here who state in their anonymity that you two don’t care. It takes time to paint, it takes time to install work, and it takes time to make a difference. I think you two are trying to make a difference.

- Jonathan Cobbs
nate blake

jcobbs.blaqkthought@gmail.com

]]> By: Anonymous http://brodypaetau.com/recent-works/painting-china-now#comment-50 Anonymous Mon, 03 Mar 2008 18:13:53 +0000 http://brodypaetau.com/?page_id=79#comment-50 Marvellous work!!! Merely bringing these atrocities to the attention of the civilized world is supportive enough. The paintings are an historical milestone that will certainly inspire an attitude of peace if their message is properly understood. Clarius ugwuoha Marvellous work!!! Merely bringing these atrocities to the attention of the civilized world is supportive enough. The paintings are an historical milestone that will certainly inspire an attitude of peace if their message is properly understood.
Clarius ugwuoha

]]> By: Anonymous http://brodypaetau.com/recent-works/painting-china-now#comment-48 Anonymous Fri, 22 Feb 2008 20:17:13 +0000 http://brodypaetau.com/?page_id=79#comment-48 Bullshit, as if you'd care for chinese citizens. Bullshit, as if you’d care for chinese citizens.

]]> By: Anonymous http://brodypaetau.com/recent-works/painting-china-now#comment-47 Anonymous Wed, 13 Feb 2008 16:14:00 +0000 http://brodypaetau.com/?page_id=79#comment-47 from koko- good job, guys! from koko- good job, guys!

]]> By: Anonymous http://brodypaetau.com/recent-works/painting-china-now#comment-46 Anonymous Mon, 11 Feb 2008 16:12:07 +0000 http://brodypaetau.com/?page_id=79#comment-46 I think the installation works, and the project too. Although I'm not sure about the political statement implied. After all in a so called "civilized" country like Italy policemen shoot people on a regular basis. At least one person is killed by a policeman every year (since 1948), and no policeman has ever been convicted in the whole history of Italy. Furthermore, Amnesty International every year denounces torture being practiced in Italian prisons, yet nothing gets done about it, not from the Italian government, nor from the European Union. Ok, Italian artists are more expensive though! I think the installation works, and the project too.
Although I’m not sure about the political statement implied. After all in a so called “civilized” country like Italy policemen shoot people on a regular basis. At least one person is killed by a policeman every year (since 1948), and no policeman has ever been convicted in the whole history of Italy.
Furthermore, Amnesty International every year denounces torture being practiced in Italian prisons, yet nothing gets done about it, not from the Italian government, nor from the European Union.

Ok, Italian artists are more expensive though!

]]> By: Anonymous http://brodypaetau.com/recent-works/painting-china-now#comment-43 Anonymous Sun, 10 Feb 2008 12:26:52 +0000 http://brodypaetau.com/?page_id=79#comment-43 you should die. you should die.

]]> By: Anonymous http://brodypaetau.com/recent-works/painting-china-now#comment-42 Anonymous Sun, 10 Feb 2008 09:51:05 +0000 http://brodypaetau.com/?page_id=79#comment-42 what about doing something with Islam? some caricatures of Mohammed? what about doing something with Islam? some caricatures of Mohammed?

]]> By: Anonymous http://brodypaetau.com/recent-works/painting-china-now#comment-40 Anonymous Sun, 10 Feb 2008 00:56:22 +0000 http://brodypaetau.com/?page_id=79#comment-40 uau... the paintings says everything uau…
the paintings says everything

]]> By: Anonymous http://brodypaetau.com/recent-works/painting-china-now#comment-39 Anonymous Fri, 08 Feb 2008 17:44:45 +0000 http://brodypaetau.com/?page_id=79#comment-39 I have lived in Asia for several decades and have come to loath the Chinese. I despise everything about their culture based as it is on one of the most neurotic work ethics ever evolved in world history. To think that they may well become the most powerful nation on earth is enough to make me want to commit suicide! I have lived in Asia for several decades and have come to loath the Chinese. I despise everything about their culture based as it is on one of the most neurotic work ethics ever evolved in world history. To think that they may well become the most powerful nation on earth is enough to make me want to commit suicide!

]]> By: Anonymous http://brodypaetau.com/recent-works/painting-china-now#comment-38 Anonymous Fri, 08 Feb 2008 15:10:43 +0000 http://brodypaetau.com/?page_id=79#comment-38 It'a hard to watch tourture again and again. Is this a neo colonialist chinise art product? why now when is going so well for china? It’a hard to watch tourture again and again. Is this a neo colonialist chinise art product? why now when is going so well for china?

]]> By: Anonymous http://brodypaetau.com/recent-works/painting-china-now#comment-37 Anonymous Fri, 08 Feb 2008 10:45:47 +0000 http://brodypaetau.com/?page_id=79#comment-37 brody paeteu is so cool. once he vomited at an art fair. once he pooped in a museum. once he spray painted andy warhol's grave. once he attended a art insitution that paid him big money. once he smashed a computer. once he exploited some poor artists. now he dates a czech movie star. cool, money. brody paeteu is so cool. once he vomited at an art fair. once he pooped in a museum. once he spray painted andy warhol’s grave.
once he attended a art insitution that paid him big money. once he smashed a computer. once he exploited some poor artists. now he dates a czech movie star.
cool, money.

]]> By: Anonymous http://brodypaetau.com/recent-works/painting-china-now#comment-36 Anonymous Fri, 08 Feb 2008 09:41:02 +0000 http://brodypaetau.com/?page_id=79#comment-36 we all know what is happening, what can a realist painting in docu style do more ? we all know what is happening, what can a realist painting in docu style do more ?

]]> By: Anonymous http://brodypaetau.com/recent-works/painting-china-now#comment-35 Anonymous Fri, 08 Feb 2008 09:39:38 +0000 http://brodypaetau.com/?page_id=79#comment-35 very hip very hip

]]> By: Anonymous http://brodypaetau.com/recent-works/painting-china-now#comment-34 Anonymous Wed, 06 Feb 2008 13:28:23 +0000 http://brodypaetau.com/?page_id=79#comment-34 I see this more as an artistic demonstration of the fucked-up situation the western world continues to maintain (in order to profit from it) in China. Actually these paintings should be sold very expensively in order to fullfill the demonstration. I see this more as an artistic demonstration of the fucked-up situation the western world continues to maintain (in order to profit from it) in China. Actually these paintings should be sold very expensively in order to fullfill the demonstration.

]]> By: Anonymous http://brodypaetau.com/recent-works/painting-china-now#comment-33 Anonymous Wed, 06 Feb 2008 11:01:30 +0000 http://brodypaetau.com/?page_id=79#comment-33 cheap art from other people's misery - I'm sure there is a collector out there who can 'tut-tut' with his friends at their next dinner party. Hope the artists haven't signed the work! cheap art from other people’s misery – I’m sure there is a collector out there who can ‘tut-tut’ with his friends at their next dinner party. Hope the artists haven’t signed the work!

]]> By: Anonymous http://brodypaetau.com/recent-works/painting-china-now#comment-32 Anonymous Wed, 06 Feb 2008 09:50:41 +0000 http://brodypaetau.com/?page_id=79#comment-32 disgusting damning the art disgusting damning the art

]]> By: Anonymous http://brodypaetau.com/recent-works/painting-china-now#comment-31 Anonymous Wed, 06 Feb 2008 04:19:25 +0000 http://brodypaetau.com/?page_id=79#comment-31 trabalho muito doido esse seu! trabalho muito doido esse seu!

]]> By: Anonymous http://brodypaetau.com/recent-works/painting-china-now#comment-30 Anonymous Tue, 05 Feb 2008 22:37:20 +0000 http://brodypaetau.com/?page_id=79#comment-30 Art removed, I think the political nature of this act is important, and the more light brought to such atrocities can only be a good thing. Its quite common for artists to commission those talented to excecute their 'brilliant' concept. As art and a supposed creative act, I find this pretty lame. If the hand is the wonder, then use your own copper. To extend the idea, commissioning a chinese artist to realise these images is like wishfulment of how you perhaps think a chinese artist could better be embracing his social environment as subject matter, - lame again. The irony of this situation is in the potential interception by state, rendering the commssioned artist as the author of the works, -hence critic of state. Taking risks on others behalf, ouch. Typical behaviour for our time. If you saved so much money on the commission get your toesh on a plane and meet the chap, perhaps even apologise. james beckett Art removed, I think the political nature of this act is important, and the more light brought to such atrocities can only be a good thing.

Its quite common for artists to commission those talented to excecute their ‘brilliant’ concept. As art and a supposed creative act, I find this pretty lame. If the hand is the wonder, then use your own copper. To extend the idea, commissioning a chinese artist to realise these images is like wishfulment of how you perhaps think a chinese artist could better be embracing his social environment as subject matter, – lame again. The irony of this situation is in the potential interception by state, rendering the commssioned artist as the author of the works, -hence critic of state. Taking risks on others behalf, ouch. Typical behaviour for our time. If you saved so much money on the commission get your toesh on a plane and meet the chap, perhaps even apologise.

james beckett

]]> By: Anonymous http://brodypaetau.com/recent-works/painting-china-now#comment-29 Anonymous Tue, 05 Feb 2008 20:59:16 +0000 http://brodypaetau.com/?page_id=79#comment-29 The West just wants cheap products to keep their economy boiling and don`t give a shit about human rights or the plight of the Chinese sweatshop worker. Have you checked the annual earnings of Walmart lately? You have made your point about the brutality of man. -but that is universal when it comes to suppressing or forcing religion on the poor huddled masses. Unfortunately, when you say "breathtaking realism" or "masterful craft and handling of paint" or "beautiful, seductive and desirable works" you`re so far off. Theme aside, it is just bad painting. The Chinese craftsman will never grasp Goya or Velasquez or Carravaggio. Because he will only see them in books. -and judging by your introduction, you have no idea about painting either. Execution is the chariot of genius. Signed, a western artist who is still involved with craft. The West just wants cheap products to keep their economy boiling and don`t give a shit about human rights or the plight of the Chinese sweatshop worker. Have you checked the annual earnings of Walmart lately? You have made your point about the brutality of man. -but that is universal when it comes to suppressing or forcing religion on the poor huddled masses.
Unfortunately, when you say “breathtaking realism” or “masterful craft and handling of paint” or “beautiful, seductive and desirable works” you`re so far off. Theme aside, it is just bad painting. The Chinese craftsman will never grasp Goya or Velasquez or Carravaggio. Because he will only see them in books. -and judging by your introduction, you have no idea about painting either.
Execution is the chariot of genius.
Signed, a western artist who is still involved with craft.

]]> By: Anonymous http://brodypaetau.com/recent-works/painting-china-now#comment-28 Anonymous Tue, 05 Feb 2008 20:44:09 +0000 http://brodypaetau.com/?page_id=79#comment-28 the incredible impressions of the reality in this superpower society is really a big contrast to the pretended harmony and I hope that a lot of people will be aware of this the incredible impressions of the reality in this superpower society is really a big contrast to the pretended harmony and I hope that a lot of people will be aware of this

]]> By: Anonymous http://brodypaetau.com/recent-works/painting-china-now#comment-27 Anonymous Tue, 05 Feb 2008 19:57:42 +0000 http://brodypaetau.com/?page_id=79#comment-27 fantastic, shocking .. but fantastic. goes [ clearly ] under your skin. impressive fantastic, shocking .. but fantastic. goes [ clearly ] under your
skin. impressive

]]> By: Anonymous http://brodypaetau.com/recent-works/painting-china-now#comment-26 Anonymous Tue, 05 Feb 2008 19:52:10 +0000 http://brodypaetau.com/?page_id=79#comment-26 congratulations indeed ! impressive outsourcing business and the art work! are you aware that Chinese embassy will always try to close your show if you make explicit the context/ the story behind?... p.s. how much did you pay to the crafts-persons? congratulations indeed !
impressive outsourcing business and the art work!

are you aware that Chinese embassy will always try to close your show if you make explicit the context/ the story behind?…

p.s. how much did you pay to the crafts-persons?

]]> By: Anonymous http://brodypaetau.com/recent-works/painting-china-now#comment-24 Anonymous Tue, 05 Feb 2008 18:20:03 +0000 http://brodypaetau.com/?page_id=79#comment-24 I have seen many works lately, taking advantage of the oil painting industry of China in the name of art to try to point finger at this and that. Very very few of them succeeds in getting away with it. Sadly, this does not either. It just seems morbid to attempt "reveal or highlight" these acts of crime to the same group of people that have seen and experienced them first hand. This is just not the way to tell a story. And let me remind you, for whatever it is worth - that when You paid for these paintings, they most lightly did not find their way into the hands of the hand that painted them. I have seen many works lately, taking advantage of the oil painting industry of China in the name of art to try to point finger at this and that. Very very few of them succeeds in getting away with it. Sadly, this does not either.
It just seems morbid to attempt “reveal or highlight” these acts of crime to the same group of people that have seen and experienced them first hand. This is just not the way to tell a story. And let me remind you, for whatever it is worth – that when You paid for these paintings, they most lightly did not find their way into the hands of the hand that painted them.

]]> By: Anonymous http://brodypaetau.com/recent-works/painting-china-now#comment-23 Anonymous Tue, 05 Feb 2008 18:12:41 +0000 http://brodypaetau.com/?page_id=79#comment-23 kunst ist nicht real!! du machst immer noch kunst? du bist immer noch ein visionaer!!?? glaubst immer noch an die fanthasie? o jeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee macht weiter dein spass :))) LOL take care ;) kunst ist nicht real!!

du machst immer noch kunst?
du bist immer noch ein visionaer!!??
glaubst immer noch an die fanthasie?
o jeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
macht weiter dein spass
:) ))
LOL

take care
;)

]]> By: Anonymous http://brodypaetau.com/recent-works/painting-china-now#comment-22 Anonymous Tue, 05 Feb 2008 18:06:33 +0000 http://brodypaetau.com/?page_id=79#comment-22 Photos more real? Ever heard of Photoshop? The point is not about what's more real here but who the audience is and will they be moved by the images - that's what art and propaganda share (and anyway most of the famous frescos were propaganda for the church and Medici's, so let's not get hung up on that old chestnut). As images they're documentary and straight forward. As paintings (without seeing the texture) they don't inspire me. For people who like their paintings straightforwardly documentary then they may be moved to do something (hopefully more than just buy the paintings). But for people who are already conscious about human rights abuses and wanting to do something about it, these pics don't add much. But what do i know - we all need to do what we can the best we can. So I wish you luck Photos more real? Ever heard of Photoshop? The point is not about what’s more real here but who the audience is and will they be moved by the images – that’s what art and propaganda share (and anyway most of the famous frescos were propaganda for the church and Medici’s, so let’s not get hung up on that old chestnut).
As images they’re documentary and straight forward. As paintings (without seeing the texture) they don’t inspire me. For people who like their paintings straightforwardly documentary then they may be moved to do something (hopefully more than just buy the paintings). But for people who are already conscious about human rights abuses and wanting to do something about it, these pics don’t add much. But what do i know – we all need to do what we can the best we can. So I wish you luck

]]> By: Anonymous http://brodypaetau.com/recent-works/painting-china-now#comment-21 Anonymous Tue, 05 Feb 2008 17:14:11 +0000 http://brodypaetau.com/?page_id=79#comment-21 This is a brilliant idea, but to really follow through their critique of capitalism, the artists must GIVE THESE PAINTINGS AWAY, not add them to the same shitstream of capitalist dollars and senselessness. Of course, i dont expect you to do that, artists should get paid for their art. Best, max blagg This is a brilliant idea, but to really follow through their critique of capitalism, the artists must GIVE THESE PAINTINGS AWAY, not add them to the same shitstream of capitalist dollars and senselessness. Of course, i dont expect you to do that, artists should get paid for their art. Best, max blagg

]]> By: Anonymous http://brodypaetau.com/recent-works/painting-china-now#comment-20 Anonymous Tue, 05 Feb 2008 17:00:11 +0000 http://brodypaetau.com/?page_id=79#comment-20 why not just show blow up photos...more real. sorry, there's really no point painting them why not just show blow up photos…more real. sorry, there’s really no point painting them

]]> By: Anonymous http://brodypaetau.com/recent-works/painting-china-now#comment-19 Anonymous Tue, 05 Feb 2008 16:40:52 +0000 http://brodypaetau.com/?page_id=79#comment-19 nice skin nice skin

]]> By: Anonymous http://brodypaetau.com/recent-works/painting-china-now#comment-18 Anonymous Tue, 05 Feb 2008 16:23:03 +0000 http://brodypaetau.com/?page_id=79#comment-18 "Sophisticated agitprop" is academic bullshit and good for official biennales and boring discourses like yours. And it's "sophomoric" not "sophmoric". By the way most of the historical Agitprop art was accused of being "sophomoric" (immature) as it occured. “Sophisticated agitprop” is academic bullshit and good for official biennales and boring discourses like yours. And it’s “sophomoric” not “sophmoric”. By the way most of the historical Agitprop art was accused of being “sophomoric” (immature) as it occured.

]]> By: Anonymous http://brodypaetau.com/recent-works/painting-china-now#comment-17 Anonymous Tue, 05 Feb 2008 16:09:48 +0000 http://brodypaetau.com/?page_id=79#comment-17 This project is not blaming China as much as it is blaming the Western world for looking for profit in China and closing the eyes on obvious violations of human rights. And to make an artistic statement with the traditional medium of painting out of this political and economical problem seems quite cool to me. This project is not blaming China as much as it is blaming the Western world for looking for profit in China and closing the eyes on obvious violations of human rights. And to make an artistic statement with the traditional medium of painting out of this political and economical problem seems quite cool to me.

]]> By: Anonymous http://brodypaetau.com/recent-works/painting-china-now#comment-16 Anonymous Tue, 05 Feb 2008 15:50:33 +0000 http://brodypaetau.com/?page_id=79#comment-16 Sophisticated agitprop (agitation - propaganda) is going to be big. While Chinese artists are mining the Western historical cannon for unturned stones, no amount of "Chineseness" is going to be competitive in this post or late modern era. Only unalloyed direct communication without mediation is going to save the world from itself. This is not sophisticated - more sophmoric - in fact an art joke - but the subject matter is serious, and this kind of inhumanity is wrong whenever and wherever it occurs. Sophisticated agitprop (agitation – propaganda) is going to be big. While Chinese artists are mining the Western historical cannon for unturned stones, no amount of “Chineseness” is going to be competitive in this post or late modern era. Only unalloyed direct communication without mediation is going to save the world from itself.

This is not sophisticated – more sophmoric – in fact an art joke – but the subject matter is serious, and this kind of inhumanity is wrong whenever and wherever it occurs.

]]> By: Anonymous http://brodypaetau.com/recent-works/painting-china-now#comment-15 Anonymous Tue, 05 Feb 2008 15:27:11 +0000 http://brodypaetau.com/?page_id=79#comment-15 Leon Golub anyone? Leon Golub anyone?

]]> By: Anonymous http://brodypaetau.com/recent-works/painting-china-now#comment-14 Anonymous Tue, 05 Feb 2008 15:23:41 +0000 http://brodypaetau.com/?page_id=79#comment-14 i really do not know what to think. there is so many propaganda all around. but the point is, that wherever we might live, we can find similar problems in our narrow surround as well, let it be on the west or south, wherever. and our souls may be treated like these, too. do you think these artists will return to china soon? i really do not know what to think. there is so many propaganda all around. but the point is, that wherever we might live, we can find similar problems in our narrow surround as well, let it be on the west or south, wherever.
and our souls may be treated like these, too.

do you think these artists will return to china soon?

]]> By: Anonymous http://brodypaetau.com/recent-works/painting-china-now#comment-13 Anonymous Tue, 05 Feb 2008 15:12:30 +0000 http://brodypaetau.com/?page_id=79#comment-13 What makes China different is the economic goldrush by western countries to cash in on the market in China, regardless of official actions like these. Where is the public pressure on China to treat its citizens better? That they are paintings makes these images the more shocking. Who are these brave people? they remind me of religious 16th cent. paintings from Spain depicting the sufferings of saints. Keep up the work. What makes China different is the economic goldrush by western countries to cash in on the market in China, regardless of official actions like these. Where is the public pressure on China to treat its citizens better? That they are paintings makes these images the more shocking. Who are these brave people? they remind me of religious 16th cent. paintings from Spain depicting the sufferings of saints. Keep up the work.

]]> By: Anonymous http://brodypaetau.com/recent-works/painting-china-now#comment-12 Anonymous Tue, 05 Feb 2008 14:46:58 +0000 http://brodypaetau.com/?page_id=79#comment-12 Kind of timeless since things like this we see in "underground" media quite often, specially with ongoing wars like today...but to paint them makes it qiute different. Showing thogh is not enough, thats the problem...is like I don´t like japanese killing all the whales and tuna fish...but never smashed a fake chinese japanese sushi place their tuna in their face...we are just to comfortable I guess. Kind of timeless since things like this we see in “underground” media quite often, specially with ongoing wars like today…but to paint them makes it qiute different. Showing thogh is not enough, thats the problem…is like I don´t like japanese killing all the whales and tuna fish…but never smashed a fake chinese japanese sushi place their tuna in their face…we are just to comfortable I guess.

]]> By: Anonymous http://brodypaetau.com/recent-works/painting-china-now#comment-11 Anonymous Tue, 05 Feb 2008 14:42:25 +0000 http://brodypaetau.com/?page_id=79#comment-11 Whatever dudes: your project has been done before, and better. North-Korea, or Sri Lanka, would have been more exciting and intriguing picks for your project. So, whatever! Lame'os! Whatever dudes: your project has been done before, and better. North-Korea, or Sri Lanka, would have been more exciting and intriguing picks for your project. So, whatever! Lame’os!

]]> By: Anonymous http://brodypaetau.com/recent-works/painting-china-now#comment-10 Anonymous Tue, 05 Feb 2008 14:24:55 +0000 http://brodypaetau.com/?page_id=79#comment-10 blaming china is quite fashionable, no? but still striking images blaming china is quite fashionable, no? but still striking images

]]> By: Anonymous http://brodypaetau.com/recent-works/painting-china-now#comment-9 Anonymous Tue, 05 Feb 2008 14:12:51 +0000 http://brodypaetau.com/?page_id=79#comment-9 Marvellous! Marvellous!

]]> By: Anonymous http://brodypaetau.com/recent-works/painting-china-now#comment-8 Anonymous Tue, 05 Feb 2008 13:37:31 +0000 http://brodypaetau.com/?page_id=79#comment-8 I will look defenitly a second and third time on those works they are good for museums, for sites which we visit three a six times a year, but not good enough for my living, or maybe to good, because they hurt i will purchase one "for sure" yours, harm I will look defenitly a second and third time on those works

they are good for museums, for sites which we visit three a six times a year,
but not good enough for my living, or maybe to good, because they hurt

i will purchase one “for sure”
yours, harm

]]> By: Anonymous http://brodypaetau.com/recent-works/painting-china-now#comment-7 Anonymous Thu, 03 Jan 2008 15:45:34 +0000 http://brodypaetau.com/?page_id=79#comment-7 at least artists who dare ask China questions .honest, rude, not in search for the money . at least artists who dare ask China questions .honest, rude, not in search for the money .

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